Ho(me), Ho(me), Ho(me)
Damn, are you sure?Their extreme hotness may outshine you.
OMG!!! I went to school with them!!
Woot! I'd pay just to see them!
I can't freaking wait Jade!!
i think i'm in love, :D
Yayy!*Bounces*I bought another AFI poster today and Rolling Balls came on on shuffle.And now I found out this.Could this be one of the best days?I think so.
They're my neighbors.
dude...i dont know if im gonna be able to handle the intense hottness on stage...at first i thought it was just you and davey...which is hardcore on its own...but now you got these guys...pshhh...i think i just may die....:)
Man, this could be a little more than interesting.^.^
I think I'll come just to see them.
Tell the guy on the far left to holla at me.
It'll only fly if they play the keytar.
dammit!!thats fukin metal manheh... wouldnt you like to hit that from the backor frontwhatever=/Jade!!where are the homies at!?!<3Nik
Justin isn't exactly the one bringing sexy back...
Awh yeah get it girl.I like blonde fro-sy up front.
Wow. That's a good, solid way of saying no.I love you, Jade.xD
It's like Skinny Puppy of the 80s gone geek!
I think those boys were in my cub scout den! New they'ld make the big time someday!<3Menace
Damn yo, that's the hot shit right there! We might not be able to handle all hotness that will be up on that stage. We might even be blinded by their greatness! I might just have to bring my shades for that shit. the fro might just hypnotize us.Even though the update was short, it made my night/morning. ha! You're awesome.
The guy in front sort of looks like Jon Heder.
..well I must say u and Davey looks great on that photo(I guess u'r that one in the front and Dave's right behind u)..just kidding..anyway I'd go to BA show just to see these guys..))) <3<3
LOL ha ha ha Good one one hope you and Davey have fun on ur own up there.Blaqk Audio is coming along pretty well as I heard on myspace... i would jus hope it would come along more faster i can wait im dying with Anticipation ... if i die before August 7th please somebody buy the CD for me and bury me with it.luv Fabi
please get matching haircuts.
Dayyum.They is sexxi Jade!haha oh man lets get this going!<33
However will i cope ith all the hotness?!? :]
Wow. Aren’t they a a group of attractive men? I think you’ve got competition, Jade. - Aly
OMG. So much beauty!
haha i´m with pidgey^^ they are REALLY HOT!... i´m scared ^.~
Yeah, and they will also perform a live cover of "Poupée de cire, poupée de son" when you and Davey go out to change clothes in the middle of the set. It is too predictable.
Hehehehe. I think I may just die from being so close to them. I thought, maybe, I would pass out from being so close to you, but now...You're trying to kill me with all these gorgeous, manly, and toned men. ^___^
Oh man. I could just eat those hotties right up.
Good Job Jade. way to freak people out by telling them no at the same time.Kudos boy, way to rock the creativity.And can you pleeeeeeeeease make your photobucket public????? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE?????? I know I'm not the only one who wants to see it!!!!!<3--MxS
woah...That's a horribly dated photo. Geeks!
That guy on the far left, the one that looks like he eats Southern rock bands for snacks... yeah, tell him I said nice gloves. And tell the "black belt businessman" to holla @ me sometime.
MMHMMM HAWT SECKS.
Haha. I can't tell if you're kidding. You should get all of them to play with you. It'd be like the band with Hinder. Ew. Ew. Ew.Tie man looks good.<333333333333333
they'll definitely bring a new sense of fashion to it... You and Davey may have to renew your wardrobes ;]
...For a man with a tie.
I don't suppose you could, uh, ya' know, get me their numbers? *twirls hair*
you two always pick the best people to support you (:nice one! (:xx
Wow, how awesome! Can't wait to see the beauties play live, haha.
When the sun shines We'll shine together Told you I'll be here forever That I'll always be your friend Took an oath I'mma stick it out 'till the end Now that it's raining more than ever Know that we still have each other You can stand under my Umbrella :-[
And people say looks arnt everything.;D
haha, you could've had me fooled. xo
You've found some fine specimens there =)
Oh. That's uh... 0_0
. . .
well......nice to see that , for one minute i thought i was in the 80' ....
I wouldn't be able to enjoy the music with all of that sexy on stage.
Oh shit! What a trendsetter.
You have to be fucking kidding! (lol)Nah, I think it should be just you two.
ewww, who the fuck R they...?=/
I do believe I see those fine gentlemen in my library on a daily basis.Small world.
THATS KOOL.....BUT ARE YOU SURE? LOL CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU AND MEET YOU IN THE FUTURE TIME......
That's all too distracting.
I might get distracted with them on stage, Jade. Especially if the guy in the karate outfit starts showin off his mad skills.
That's without a doubt the SEXIEST band I've ever seen.
I'm really feeling the wolf shirt which also had a motorcycle on it.That's like, ultimate.I bet it has an eagle on it too.
...Dad?(You know, part of me just doesn't think you're kidding. And I have those heroin-addict sunglasses, I'm actually wearing them now.)
damn! those guys are soooo fucking hot!!! sorry honey... they have just replaced you... ;)(hahahaha just kidding... nobody could ever steal that place from you)btw, thanks for putting the album out on august 7th... it's just two days before my b-day!! yay! luv ya! <3
(The aviators, too.)
Indeed. Ninja's rock. I don't really get the whole ninja vs. pirate thing, but it would e very interesting to see you and Adam go at it =]
if you guys grow frizzy mullets like that one guy, i will come to EVERY one of your shows. forever.
I can't wait untill you guys go on tour! (Psst, come to Calgary first! Then again...and maybe just oner more time. Lol.)I love your awesomeness Jade.
Wow!you're gonna have to make a competition for "the hottest guy on stage"!be careful, or they're gonna steal your fans!xDDDbut i do think the ninja outfit new style is totally cool, but it would look better on youxoxo from mexico!!!
alright. i think things just got a ittle bit more interesting. i cant tell if you're joking or not Jade. oh well the ninja guy adds something.
The only word that comes to mind is mullet.Nice.
hahahaha c'est toute.
mmm,You scared me. Hey Jade I don't like the new format of the page, seems like a western comic book...no? No? ok then is your choice, but let me tell you is not chic hahah.
they are hotter than youNOT !!!hehehehefinally you post something we all needed to know something about you this was a lonely blog =(, go to my blog i posted something about blaqk audio and put a pic from your Mexico tour last april wuhuuu!!.come to Mexico with BA or texas.BaBye.....
i forgot to tell that you will look better in that formal-ninja custom
LOVE MON =)
Yay!!.....lol the guy in the Karate suit is hilarious and cant wait til a show!!
I... don't even have words. I'd love to be all 'blaqk audio news, psyyyyched!' but I think I'm far too disturbed by that picture to fully experience such a positive emotion.
Woah. Sexiness. Don't let them go stealing your thunder now.
Oh man, I so cant wait!!!
Bahahaha! I fell over laughing at that picture. It's sad when the hottest member of your band has a fried out blonde afro.And the guy in the karate outfit with the shirt and tie... his son must go to my school cause there's a kid in my class that dresses the same way. LOL
Man they must be pretty cool to be able to pose like that! kick ass!
I had a question for you, Jade...I'm writing a book, and I wanted to ask for your permission to begin each chapter with AFI lyrics. Would that be all right? Love Blaqk Audio, by the way. Totally rad.
Jebus, I hope I get to meet them!
LoL, now thats just hot. Maybe they kick you and Davey out and then just them will be Blaqk Audio. Hahaha...I cant wait for the album, btw;DI hope it will be released in Europe...Will it???
daymn..i am even more stoked now.
Mmmm...The guy on the far left reminds me someone...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKPWelHSTUToo bad I couldn't find the nunchaku scene!!!! Man! A nunchak fight on scene...That can be rad! I'll do the Blaqk Audio tour only for that!!! ^^
Ninja?? *laugh* I can't say anything...
Taking that as a no . . . made me smile again, Jade.
wow jade, you sure know how to pick em. those guys are total pimps.
GAHH!!-head slams into keyboard--looks at picture again-AHHHHHHH!!-head slams into monitor-Theymustbefromflorida.Theymustbefromflorida.Only crazy Floridians likemyself look like that.
wait.my hair totallyout-pimps theirs...but not yours.Hooray for Jade-hawk.
Dang. They're hot.I think, that BA should definitely play in St. Louis when you start touring. I'd probably pee a little. Yeah.Jade, I lurve you.You're my hero.
I have no words for you Jade... no words. <3
FAKE! FAKE! FAKE! FAKE! FAKE! FAKE1 YOUR NOT JADE YOUR NOT JADE YOUR NOT JADE YOUR NOT JADE YOUR NOT JADE!!! CAUSE GUESS WHAT THEY AREN'T THROWING A CONCERT AND IF YOU WHEERE REALLY JADE WHICH YOUR NOT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS WHOLE TIME AND GUESS WHAT JADE CLEARLY SAID ONE TIME WHEN I GOT V.I.P AND SAW THEM IN L.A. THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A CHAT THING OR A BLOG THING THAT HE IS CONTACTING PEOPLE WITH! SO HAHAHAHA! CHECK IT HE EVEN MADE A CAM ABOUT IT ON YOUTUBE YOU LIAR!!!!!!!!
OH AND BTW JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW JADE'S A VEGETARIAN AND HE'S VERY HAPPY BEEN ONE SO THERE NO WAY JADE WOULD HAVE CORNDOG INTERESTS EVEN AS A JOKE SO NICE ONE AND HE DOWN'T LIVE IN HOLLYWOOD OR HOWEVER YOU SPELL IT HE LIVES BACK IN BERKLY WITH MARISSA SO STOP WITH THE GAMES YOU FAKE!
PLUS TO ADD ON TOP OF THAT JADE WOULD NEVER QUOTE THIS "Handsome kickboxer from the wrong side of the tracks. I can benchpress a Ferrari." CAUSE JADE'S A NINJA A VERY WELL KNOWN NINJA ESPICIALLY WITH HIS FANS NOT NO KICK BOXER AND TO MAKE ANOTHER POINT ADAM'S THE PIRATE INCASE YA'LL DIDN'T KNOW!!! FAKEY FAKEY FAKE FAKE NICE TRY BUT YOU AINT WINNING!!!! AND THE REAL JADE ALWAYS WINS!!!!
Wow, Tiffany. That is perhaps the most energetic set of comments I've ever read. I feel like I've just run a lap around the track feild (which is an accomplishment for someone with athsma)
even he is or not this is kind of fun heheh if he is he´ll find a way to prove us he is the one.
Wow, they look like some of the people from band...WAIT! you're not taking some of my Seniors from the '04 show are ya??? :s ~.^
They all have such fashion sense.
So how do you like Cassadaga?
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Too much information for my brains...hm,Tiffany.. О_о...Jade..made a cam on utube? what???!!!??!!?!....give us a link!!!!!!!!!!!!!p.s. what he said? that he doesn`t have any blog? and why are u sure that he would say he has???? i dont think so...
LOL!!!THANK YOU TIFFANY!!!You really made my day! ^^ I wasn't even supposed to be here but I'm glad that I did ^^First of all, Jade's personal life belongs to Jade. So those (BTW wrong) informations that you're giving us about Jade living somewhere with who aren't interessting at all...About corndog and stuff...Stop taking it seriously...It's internet! After you can't find any place more fake than that ^^ (Beside Las Vegas ^^)And if you wanna know if he's the really Jade...He's big enough to defend himself. If you wanna to find it yourself...Just think how this person has Smith video here.And yes Blaqk Audio is planning shows...And I'm not the one to tell this...Take it easy
wow. that's hot! they're playing bitter for sweet on KROQ now, which is absolutely AWESOME! bring some good music to the radio, yo!
hmm...i just read tiffany's comments...i'm contemplating
"OH AND BTW JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW JADE'S A VEGETARIAN AND HE'S VERY HAPPY BEEN ONE"-cries-Your grammar is horrendous!
My goodness tiffany. Need some Ritalin?First of all, some advice. Most people aren't going to take you seriously if you type like you're on crack. Calm down, and think back to the grammar lessons of 2nd grade. You should know that Jade has a very witty sense of humor, right? Well then, wouldn't it make sense that he posts things that are funny and shouldn't be taken seriously? Interest in corndogs-joke. (Either way, just because he's a vegetarian doesn't mean he can't be interested in corndogs.)Kickboxing, again-joke. (Although ninjas could kickbox. Ninjas are fluent in many forms of martial arts.)When I read over his blog, I don't find anything that could indicate this is a fake Jade. The URL of his girlfriend's myspace? I don't think a fake could get ahold of that. And the guitar part of "Endlessly, She Said" that got taken out? There is no way some poser could do that! Plus Smith videos, original drawing of the Sing The Sorrow rose, Blaqk Audio stuff that isn't even on the myspace, pictures of Davey in the studio, and so much more! What more proof do you need?I just don't see HOW you could doubt that Jade writes this blog. And if you are so sold on the idea that it isn't, why not just leave it be? Forget about it, don't let it bother you.
Yay. I'm excited!!And the karate outfit with a shirt and tie under it...Is pretty sweet if I do say so myself. :)Love you Jade!Jenn ♥
:D Can't wait for the tourAnd by the way Tiffany he's no fake he posted this blog url on the OMB.<3
http://board.despairfaction.com/showthread.php?t=54574 proofthatthisisreal:)haha can't wait for the tourand that guy to the righthes pretty fly
hehe you have the best sense of humour =D sooo excited for CexCells! && I'm dying for a tour too :DCaitiexxx♥
Are you sure the crowd will even see you within that crowd of fabulous people?
take a chill pill tiffany, it's the real jade sry2say. ;-]
damn. those are some sweet stunna shades... can't wait to see you guys live though!
I want to bear their children.You just don't find major babes like that hanging around the trailer park...
They scare me a little...They dress like my dad...
You better not let them upstage you. Remember to do stage dives while shredding keyboard solos, 'kay?
Jade you oughta bring those hotties to Brazil. We're so not used to sexy beasts like that. They will totally make you and Davey disappear onstage... Aren't ya jealous?? I would be. <3
And Tiffany you totally made our days, girlie. I love how self assured you are. I'll laugh for a week with your posts, thanx a bunch.
Jade...did you cut your hair? I hope not. I'll cry.
I voted you for sexiest vegetarian alive, if that means anything to you ;)
Oh, that's just going to be totally awesome. I was too busy appreciating the guy in the torn denim's amazing hairstyle to pay attention to anyone else. But now I can't stop looking at the dude in the karate outfit. Thanks for that. Really.
sooo you guys`re going to do a tour of Blaqk audio that will be amazing just fucking amazing just can`t wait 4 you guys come to Mexico again... that remember me....It`s true that you come again to mexico but this time come to Monterrey?? please answer, that will be the best think that ever happen in my holle life......and if you don`t come please don`t forget about mexico in Blaqk audio Tourwell I can`t wait for you guys well another question... Who will be the Blaqk audio tour manager?? it will be Smith??? that will be great love ya guys... Kisses and hugs<3)) Paola
Hey, hmm, looks like a kick a** band, how about telling us some more about them, that'd be great, ^_^ .Ahahahaha, Tiffany ^_^ , Its going to be funny if your'e wrong even funnier if your'e right, well peace Out! ^_^
Oh yes I also want to know, along with some other people I see, Did you cut your hair???, I saw a new picture for Blaqk Audio, I'm not sure what to make of it yet, Peace Out! ^_^
Will Blaqk Audio, or indeedio AFI, be coming to Belfast? That 16 year old can get into no problemo?Pretty Please say yes!!!Coz you rock, and ur extremely hot! As is Davey!Although... with these guys up here, you two may have some competition!!!*ur still my #1 guy <3*JXK
these are the men who will me holding you up through out your debut performances and you simply refer to him as 'the guy' ? *gasp* a little disappointed... just joshin witcha<3 katherine
psi enjoy taking in the sight of your hair. hopefully i will be able to do so in the flesh, soon. sorry to say the word flesh *ew* way to ruin the moment eh?
Yay, welcome back to the one & only place to share your inner feelings about your inner feelings on a rendered bloggarduh. :)P.S. DEM dudes I dig.P.P.S. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/58458280/@+
hey guys, go to youtube and watch a video called "Jade's Mexico song"! I laugh everytime I watch it!!!='DDD
Haha, I've seen jade's Mexico Song, its really funny, anyone who hasn't seen it, I reccomend that you watch it like right now before you forget, well Peace Out!
EHMAGAWD! I'm soo excited, Jaaaade! CexCells COMES OUT ON MY BIRTHDAY! You should totally do a show in New Orleans to celebrate! :) lol. Send me an email or something, PLEASE! Oh, and those guys doing shows with you are pretty rad. I agree, the guy-on-the-far-right's outfit is soo tight!
Wow, I just read Tiffany's comments... whoa. Jade, please prove to this girl once and for all that YOU are the sole contributor to this blog, just so that she'll stop making false, bad-grammar-error-ridden rants about you. For our sake and yours. :\
what's the fuzz with tellin tiffany off? If she's convinced that this blog is fake then it's her problem not yours.On another note, are BA coming to Germany? And even to my humble town? would be nice, if it wouldn't be in the middle of the week like with AFI.♥ Buzz
I think that Tiffany girl wayyyy up there ^^ needs to clam her shit down! Please betch pop a pill! damnnn! lol
je ne pas comprende? or maybe im a bit thick?oh wellhope you guys can perform in london brixton that would be soo amazinggraace
i dont understand... but im dumb so its okay... please come to london brixton it would be so amazing as its kinda vintage and would be amazinid gograacex
Just think of the sweet Karate moves he could do whilst jamming! Uh oh, he may even upstage you...
stellar!! haha idk i agree, they might steal the spotlight with thier sexiness
I hope you guys do a concert in New York! <3 JaXie
Oh yeah I did see that new band pic for Blaqk Audio. Noooooo, is the Jade Hawk really gone?! *sigh*Hmmm but it doesn't look like you cut it too much, I can't tell since it's slicked back.Another thing, is the song Fog a kind of test/preview from BA, or just a random hidden goodie?
any asia tour?? aww i really would love that. and Jade's mexico song = classic.
for you i swallow the ocean...lol
Awesome, I can't wait for Blaqk Audio...waiting is murder on my head
Absolutely excited about that back up band... I won't know who to look at ;D
HOT.Jim Morrison x 10
Six word "More Compition for wolrd sexiest Vegans" ... LOL never your to HOT :)OH BTW :Why the change of dates... Now Cexcells wont be out until the 14th of August I though it was originally the 7th not the 14th?... Why? Jade why?.... And whats up with your hair? Did you really cut it?You would still look Hot with a hair cut, come on what kinda Guitar playing Ninja/kick boxer doesn't look hot... even if they cut there hair LOL. The only thing that worries me is thatyour hair was like your your trademark man ... It even had its own name and everything ... The 'Jadehawk' (*Tears*)Its ok if you did cut it I guess... its just it came to me as a shock when I first saw the pics ... Hey it could be wrost u could be bald LOL :)Luv ya Fabi (come to Philadelphia or New York or even Jersey for that matter PLEASE)
Chill pill anybody ?... sure... how about you tiffany? You look like you need about 10 maybe more :( Tiffany... I know I shouldn't do this cause it would be a waste of space and Jade can handle with this himself but ... Jade is a very funny man and he jokes around and says thing like that alot he is human and has a scence of humor like the rest of us (just look at the humor of this blog in particular) as for the kickboxing comment ... here is valid proof that he does say that kind of stuff : "Friday, June 29, 2007 Veg edgeSo Davey won World's Sexiest Vegetarian again. Whatever. I won World's Buffest Kickboxer, AGAIN. Jeez, that's gotta be like 10 times in a row now I've won that?" Found at: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogID=282040092&Mytoken=5D8554C8-91D5-47E0-9551EEE126F75503104438538 .... (For those who dont know, that is the URL to BlaqkAudio's blog on myspace for ya )The other things that Pyrophoenix and beastly ninja pointed out are mostly right and make alot of sence. Anyways this should just be straighten out by Jade, That is if he wants to or not ... we will just have to see. ♥ FABi ♥ (luv ya Jade)
Hey Jade!You made me laugh out loud, again.I tried to buy "Stiff Kittens", but it's not available in Spain. Yet? I hope!!By the way, Tiffany, there are vegetarian corndogs, as well as vegetarian hot dogs and burgers.
Heh heh. I love that pic. Just look at their faces lol
HI Jade ! ! !I ´ve got 3 questions- What about AFI? ? - How long it will take you to start a new album with AFI ? ? - Blaqk Audio will come to Mexico ? ? I am really excited !! Too much love for you guys <3Barbara
Jadewhat do you think of Kanye West covering Daft PunkHave you've seen the videoits on my pagei actually like it
That better mean Julien-K will be playing with you...
Can't wait! I know you all won't disappoint us!
Hey Jade. You were performing at Live Earth yesterday??? How was that? I didnt saw your performance=( So I hope it will be somewhere on the internet...Did you met any cool famous person? We want new post!!!kiSSeS;)
I´ve just seen it. Great show! U rock...and btw, nice haircuts;)
well...theyre loverly...!! extremely excited yo! :P:D
I'm diggin the mullets and sweet belt buckle.
I knew you would probably play at Live Earth! Dammit!! I didn't watch much and then the power went out again... I'll probably find somewhere, and they'll probably reapeat some on tv too..
oh you funny boy!
You are too cute Jade!
boy do i love you jade =]if you remembered me that would be a miracle but i was that pathetic person in milwaukee at summerfest who hugged you and then stood there stupidly trying to think of something to say, failed, blurted out 'youre amazing', and ran away.=]
NOOO NOOO NOOOO.just u and davey will suffice.that ninja outfit with the tie is hot though.PUT YOURSELF IN THAT GET-UP! :Dok kidding.can't wait for the blaqkaudio cd to come out! and pls pls make sure it ships to asia or i'll be really devastated. thanks!
this. is jade's blog. this. is where the smith's videos come from. this. is where all the unseen davey photos come from. yea. and i'm in a bit of agony rght now cos i need to listen to stiff kittens and the only way to do so is going onto myspace.:(
jade i was thinking and wouldn't it be amazing if you post a picture of yourself as a young kid on here? =] i know personally that would make my life complete<3
Damn those guys are hardcore.Insert fangirl rambling here:And I saw you guys in Milwaukee on the 3rd. Fucking amazing show, worth the waiting in the rain over again.All I can say is whythankyou. -sami
Uhm, Jade, I think they'll look better with eyeliners and some pearls and Hello Kitty pendants from Tarina Tarantino. I can't help but LOL'ed at the dorks! You naughty boy!
tiffany, calm down! if U don't respect us at least respect yourself and SHUT THE F#%K UP! grow up, girl!p.s. your grammar is horrible! Živilė
Shy boys don't win
The cover for CexCells on Amazon.com--is that really really for reals the real cover of the real CD?
So i took noticed to the guy at the far right and I can't stop smirking. i am smirking hard.
we love jade!
holy hell. i can't believe i'm actaully talking to you. well actually. it'a a one sided conversation. But S&^$ man. I frikin love you to no end. a bit forward, i know. BUT o so true. I'd pay big money to see that. i really would. l'm really lovin' the formal Karate guy. but i must admit i like the fro guy. it reminds me of ray toro.
oh jade. im gonna take karate soon and i was hoping if you can be my teacher. *winks* you can promote me to ninja in no time. lol. :]
hm...your support band "whyte stereo"!they will rock christopher walken's ass
post something right now!!!!!!its an order just kiddingbut plz post something=(
I think it's a kung fu outfit rather than karate... still darn stylish though
Ha ha ha silly Jade!Love the ninja outfit thanks for pointing it out.Mr.Puget a bit straight forward but will YOU marry ME.... LOL JKbut it would still be nice to be married to you, a girl can dream now cant she lol.
The guy in the front is hotttt. I think I'm in love...
nearing another one month absence D:
Hello, Jade! When will you come to St-Peterburg(Russia)?We are waiting you!!! Thank you.
Hello.How do yo do.I think it's good to bring a backup band.Because,I 'd like to go "Blaqk Audio Live".Of course, I love AFI.
Ch'yeah. They'll rock it fo' sure.
Ah, brilliant. Blaqk Audio need to come to Europe soon.And AFI were amazing on 5th of May in Milan, btw :)
Wow! Adam's(dude in karate gi+tie) is gonna play backup in Blaqk Audio...hmmm? haha. But seriously, prepare to be outshined. For some strange reason, I feel like watching Saved By The Bell.XD
wow jade is such a hottie
hi))please can someone explain who r these guys??seriously??can u??
Jade... Where did you find this group of 100% man candy?!You might just have some competion...
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