Sunday, June 14, 2009

Glad to see some healthy debate on the topic. Let me note that I have no problem with covering a song, there's a long tradition of covering other people's songs, it's an integral part of the music world. However, taking parts of a song, lyrics, melodies, chord changes, and putting them in your own "original" song and not calling it a cover no es bueno. Also, Flo Rida stole the name of our orangiest state. My new rap name is going to be Ida Ho.


I got rid of some of the flair on the page so maybe it won't load like it's on AOL dial-up. Remember that mess?
"Hold on, let me me disconnect my phone so I can go online. I'll be downloading this Promise Ring song for the next 35 minutes."
Let's all take a minute to remember the internet of the late 90's. Napster, chat rooms, Makeout Club, eternal pageloading. What am I forgetting?

Let me also take a moment to rant. I flipping through radio stations yesterday in my car and I thought I heard "You Spin Me Right Round" by Dead or Alive, so I stopped, only to discover that it was, in fact, not the classic 80's band Dead or Alive but Flo Rida.






















The song has basically the same melody, chord changes, and some of the same lyrics...




...and I might be mistaken but I don't think it's considered a cover, I think it's considered a Flo Rida original.
There are some other egregious examples of this (and I won't even get into Puff Daddy's offenses in this area).
Namely, Hilary Duff pwning Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus":



and Rihanna "borrowing" from Soft Cell's "Tainted Love":




I hope that the original artists are getting paid some serious royalties at least, I think Pete Burns from Dead or Alive would like to own a watch the size of a dinner plate too.

Thoughts on old timey Internetz or "covering" the classics?

163 comments:

Anna! said...

I am tempted to call the Flo Rida song a cover because it is obviously a different take on the song, and there is no way he could pretend it's original. But it is annoying when bands don't acknowledge their song-stealing (-cough-Sum 41-cough-).

d said...

I hate how "artists" rip off music and don't give credit (I have to doubt that Dead or Alive is seeing any more money than Vanilla Ice paid Bowie and Queen). Obviously musicians can't live in bubbles, and sometimes the work of one artist can influence another. I think that we all can accept this to a degree, and so we don't get too upset when we hear a riff that sounds oddly familiar. But when people of dubious musical talent are out-right stealing, I don't think that it's right. Perhaps Metallica should spend less time lamenting when 14 year old kids download songs and more time lamenting when "artists" steal music and make a fortune whilst the original creators are left out in the cold.

Anonymous said...

interestingly it wasn't actually Soft Cell who wrote Tainted Love, it was in fact written by Ed Cobb and recorded by Gloria Jones!

NoiseElectric said...

This is a subject that I've been ranting about for years. I can't [bleep]ing stand it when the classics get ripped off by some [bleep]ing obnoxious hip hop/rap/R&B/pop artist who thinks they're being original...and yet, this stuff passes for original because much of their audience is too young to remember THE original.

Might as well accept that we're part of a dying race, hon. The last of a generation who actually knew what good music sounded like.

The way I see it, though...it gives us an advantage. We don't need to embrace the next big, commercialized thing with a shelf life of 2 minutes because we know where great music came from.

Ok, end rant. :P You know what I mean and I know what you mean. Just wait...someone will sample Miss Murder one day. Just hope they take it out to dinner first. lol

Sally, Sweden said...

I agree!

Noah said...

All the new remixes make me sick too. I couldn't agree with you more.

Liz said...

holy shit that hillary duff song is an abomination and crime against music. i can't believe someone would do that :|

Ashesxlikexsnow said...

I personally like Dead or Alive's original, you can't seem to beat the stalkeresque tone to it. Hillary Duff fails, I think she should stick to her poppy Disney roots and not attempt Depeche Mode's dark melodies. Rhianna did alright, we need to remember that Soft Cell actually covered Tainted Love.

cilliii said...

I doubt the original artist don't geet paid for such obvious covers. Or at least I hope so.
Anyway, originals for the win. =)
I have to admit that I most times prefer AFI's covers, though than the originals. "Just Like Heaven" by The Cure is better, though. :)

Much love

Eva Emma said...

Oh, yes, the good old days. People PC was the bane of my existence for many a year. >(

What about the "You Spin Me Right Round" cover by Eiffel 65? Though it is shortened to "Right Round."
Usually I have difficulties with bands covering songs, but this one is pretty catchy.
In my opinion, though, nothing beats the original.

Zachary said...

I think that what Pete Burns wants is to look like a human again.

Anonymous said...

I was thinking the exact same thing! I love the original "You Spin Me Right Round" song, and recently I heard my brother listening to the rap version on the computer (he loves rap and stuff and I hate it... lol) and I was like "ughh.. they butchered it.." and he didn't believe me when I told him that it was just a remix. I made him listen to the original online. He actually thought that the rapper wrote the song. It was the saddest thing. I assumed it was just my brother being ignorant, but if the rapper is actually taking credit then that's really messed up...

Obsolete said...

i guess a lot "rappers" and unimaginative disney kids can't make up their own music and have to "borrow", in the name of success, a song that is obviously better then what they can think of.

just like the movies! now a lot of remakes.

dumb.

when can bands and people make their own original song without selling out and taking someone elses success. half of the people listening to that ridiculous flo rida song wouldn't even know who dead or alive is.

kill the generation of radio waves.

i prefer older more musically matured bands like, of course, AFI, Queen, Depeche Mode... etc.

what if somebody screwed with "bohemian rhapsody" and adding a wicked rhyming freestyler named lil wayne..

i'll throw a hatchet in the air and pray, in my own way, that it severs me in two.

what do you think of those "rock" bands covering "rap" songs?

i find it ridiculous. look up "lollipop" rock version.. i can't remember the band...

just get a cloth.. your ears may bleed a little due the ridiculousness of it.

JDudette said...

All I can say is, that's atrocious.
And I've noticed that Rihanna does seem to "borrow" from good 80's songs a lot....

xcaught_in_the_fallx said...

i didn't even know it was a cover!!! wow i feel stupid. eh i'll look up the original now. thanks jade!!!!!

as for ye olde interweb... well things are better in some ways now and not in others.

xcaught_in_the_fallx said...

well having looked at the original now i have to say that it's not...bad...it's interesting. um.. i like flo rida's better. sorry. i'd buy the other though. just not the video. that was................................
um. dot blank.

Jen** said...

haha 90's dial up! the best! haha and i totally agree with u on the covers i mean, originals are always best!

Anonymous said...

I think it's really lame when people take melodies from other songs and add in their own (crappy) lyrics. Of course, it's also lame when they keep the same lyrics. Hip-hop artists seem to do this a LOT, and I think it shows a real lack of originality and talent. (Case in point: 90% of Eminem's music.)

Here's a sad fact about my childhood: I used to think that "Islands in the Stream" was "stolen" from "Ghetto Superstar." Sad.

Anonymous said...

ah the 80s those were the days when Pete was still a cute boy, the net was the thing your day gave you to fish with, uk punk was still clinging on to life(still is actually, check out Bobbie Peru, Shag Nasty, The Damned etc) covers were mostly those nasty little things that your nan had on the sofa arms. Ah time to have a nostalgic watch of Simon LeBon being dunked-always makes me smile

Anonymous said...

wow Hilary Duff slaughtered "Personal Jesus"
I'm almost ashamed for her

Anonymous said...

i really don't think "flo rida" should've messed w/ that song. It was awesome as it was. i mean c'mon, u don't mess w/ classics!!! lol but anyways.......
<333 u jade =) and thnx for the update =)

any_mouse said...

Wow, I remember first getting 56k dial-up 10 years ago. Remember those screeching sounds while the modem was trying to connect? Sounded like a yowling cat on Autotune.

Panduh [DF] said...

You can't beat the classics.
I nearly cried when I heard what Flo Rida did to that song.

Jenny said...

yea i think it's total bullshit, and kids growing up hearing this stolen music thinking it's awesome makes me wanna puke up my lunch in some rap thugs faces.

kirstie said...

Thinking about old timey internet just frustrates me haha.

As for the borrowing from songs...I've already ranted about this about a month ago. I went on and on about how no one is an original musician anymore and they have to steal from some of the really good songs so that they, in turn, can steal some popularity as well. I hate mainstream music. Its all the same song. Maybe just slightly different beats. There's no meaning or emotion at all. Especially rap songs:

"One day I went to the club. I had a few drinks and there was this lady dancing in the middle of the dance floor. This is how she danced. I think I'm gonna take her home with me tonight."(<--Rap song in a nutshell).

Then you've got all your R&B singers trying to make techno music. I ask "Why are you trying to ruin this genre? Stick to your own dumb genre."

Britney Spears is so annoying. Every song she comes out with is on the techno side...or her version of it. She says the same thing over and over and over again. That IS a common thing to do in Trance songs...but the singers of Trance songs usually have a voice that sounds like water...blending in beautifully with the music so that you get lost in it. Britney is like nails being driven in my skull. I feel like killing myself every time I hear Womanizer.

Save me, Jade. Put out your new album already xD The world needs it! <3

The Punk Skunk said...

...That's horrible. New music is getting pretty terrible, but the fact that they can't even make their own music? Why? If it were a cover I could understand, but that's not even a cover.

I'm just hanging on to the last few fragments of light in modern music before they fade away. Then I'll hide in my room till it changes.

Michi said...

The only thing these artists are being original about is finding new ways to be unoriginal.

And yes, I fondly remember my first computer from about 1995. It was amazing and came with netscape...3?

rozenxmaiden said...

OMG I have been complaining about the same thing!!!

I would rather have to listen to their normal crappy music rather than butchering old classics ;__;

It makes me a sad sad girl.

smoke goes to god said...

Agreed
Everything you're saying there is so true, Jade.
I cannot even begin to tell you how mad I was when I heard that flo rida song on the radio.
It's nice that someone understands what I'm talking about

Sarah said...

I understand why some artists decide to cover songs of those they admire. But in the case of these songs, I believe simply comes down to a lack of talent and being out of new ideas.

TomiBizarre said...

my opinion on covering those songs is that the people who DO those type of songs don't deserve their "fame".

its fucking retarded, and it does in fact piss me off.

Anonymous said...

Jade, tell me you at least had your own Geocities site. :)


- Tony

susie said...

Indeed. I was excited when I turned on the radio when I heard the oh-so-famous beats from Dead or Alive but then I realized it was on 95.5 The Beat-a.k.a. pure rap 24/7.
(On a side note: have you seen that commercial for the Monster 80's tracks or something? "You Spin Me Round" always reminds me of that for some reason)

In general, I suppose it's cool for artists to "cover" songs just as long as it's not incredibly awful (ie: Lady Sovereign butchering the Cure's "Close to Me"). Unfortunately, good covers are hard to find.

But thanks Jade, really, for putting out some bitching covers with Davey, Adam and Hunter. My friend and I had a conversation about how y'all should release more cover songs :)

helen099 said...

oh, the nightmare of old-timey internet..... I would go to make a phone call, and I would hear a funny noise in the receiver. then I would have to yell, "Matt! Get off the internet. I need to make a phone call!" *shudders*

those poll questions are easy; you gave us the answers in your blog! :D

♥♥

NDriver said...

I was born in 1990, so I was growing up when the internet pulled around. I remember getting thousands of AOL cds in the mail to play with. I also remember using the Mac classic, Windows 95, and also when the iMac came out in 99'. I miss the old machines in a weird way, when they first came out they were awesome, and you didn't care if it took forever to install something. Now we need everything done in less than a minute.

Don't get me started on those songs. They piss me off.

Anonymous said...

We had this free internet in the 90's. Much slower than AOL. Top it off with a slow computer and it took about 50 minutes to download a song. Good times...

Karlye said...

Ah, dial-up, I do remember thee, I was only a youngster at the time but I do remember the slow interwebz.

I strongly agree with you/your rant/point, Jade. It also really bothers me because a lot of people my age haven't heard the original songs in which these artists have "covered", so they think it's an original song. Here's a perfect example, my best friend actually thought that Marilyn Manson originally sang "Tainted Love". As we all know, he covered Soft Cell's song. But that really bothered me, because she wasn't even aware of the original song. I think that this whole trend of "covering" other artist's songs and "making them into your own" should stop. It's absolutely pointless. It obviously means that these artists who "cover" others aren't original enough to come up with their own beats and end up "borrowing" from others. And I certainly hope that the artists that you pointed out who do this whole "covering" business, along with others who do it, pay a pretty penny to use the original artist's song. It would be ludicrous if they didn't. /Rant.

LadyJinx_DF said...

Ya know,Jade....Some very unlucky people are still on dail-up... Me being one of them. We live so far in the country of "Sweet Home Alabama",High speed doesn't reach. So when I get offonline I'll call you back,You kept getting that busy signal right? xD.

Those newer songs blow. But Marilyn Manson did fine covers to Personal Jesus and Tainted Love. Wtf were those rappers thinking trying pull off stuff like this. Such a same.

Well I am so glad you posted! Made my day! Our power has been off due to falling trees! Run!!!

Anonymous said...

Well deserved rant. Usually the original is the best version. Not always. Well put about the serious royalties. You should know how that works. They have to get paid, don't they?
Oh yeah, cute pics from your trip. Looks like you had a nice time.

Absent. said...

Pete Burns makes me furious. He is about 7935.2 times better a dancer than me. He had dreadlocks once upon a time, which was pretty excellent of him. Still makes me furious, though. He was on celebrity wife swap as the wife being swapped this one time, ended up with a smelly old sports guy and a smelly young baby. They required similar levels of maintenance.

o_0

alyssAfromUnder said...

I think that Hilary Duff's annoys me the most -.- horsecrack.

Anonymous said...

The chat rooms! OMG, I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but there used to be a host called IRC chat? Or something like that, I live in a small town, so everyone from all the different schools in the area we're on there. I remember hooking up with alot of girls that way. The only down fall was, you never really knew what they were going to look like. I remember waiting with a friend at the movies to meet two girls, (they had told us what they would be wearing) We saw them, and took off the other way. I know that's mean, but trust me....these girls looked like cavewomen! And not like Betty, or Thelma they we're BAD.....But yeah, that and someone picking up the phone when u were online and disconnecting you. And that damn dial-up sound.....AGGGHHHHH! but still I loved the 90's, some great bands came from that era. Let's name some Favorite's......I loved Blind Melon, until the lead singer shannon hoone Overdosed on heroin.....That sucked....

Andrew

Dancealways said...

The old interwebz have come a long way. No one could ever reach us because we always had the phone tied up for dial-up. Napster took forever. Netscape. I set every page to no pictures and text only so pages would load more quickly. Usenet. Windows 3.1. One open window only. No tabbed browsing. Midi files the only music. Really horrible geocities home pages with sparkles and unicorns (not mine). Aaah the bad old days. But before that, there was bitnet, and 300 baud modems.

Christa said...

Wouldn't a watch the size of a dinner plate be terribly inconvenient? I'd imagine it getting stuck in doors. They could wear it around their neck like Flava Flav.

It's not quite covering but in some ways it could be very creative or very lazy, depending on how they used the song. I have to agree about Sting and P.Diddy. He kind of sort of entirely missed the point of that song besides making it sound horrible.

ThisSideUp said...

I HATE Hilary Duff so much (more than I did before) for that cover of "Personal Jesus." SHE DIDN'T EVEN GET THE FUCKING WORDS RIGHT! I want to shoot myself (and her) whenever I hear it... I haven't heard the Flo Rida thing and don't even get me started on that other chick and "Tainted Love"... >:(

Limbo McLaurin said...

On the topic of lovely 90's internet-you forgot the all pleasing dial tone and screeching mechanics noise it made when hooking up to the phone line.

And I have noticed a TON of new artist's 'borrowing' from older songs. Flo rida (again) took the "dam daba dee daba die" from that old "Blue" song by Eiffel 65.

sad sad stories

OneCoolNerd said...

I hate that Flo Rida song. They turned a fun, awesome song into trashy shit.

Cindy said...

I'm an 80's kid so my opinions are probably of no use because it's really a no-brainer but your polls, why even vote? I hate it/them. ? Covers have their place but the ones I tend to like aren't on the radio. Same with movies - leave them alone.

I did, however, hear Gnarls Barkley cover a Radiohead song this summer at a show and it was amazing but you won't find it on the radio (I think) and I don't think he's making $$ off of it (I think).

Haras said...

sooooooooo bad.

Thablaqkgoat said...

Those rappers and singers annoy me when they do such things!
They steal and ruin
That's all...

Mandy said...

I don't remember internet in the 1990s because I never used it :P All I did when I was a kid on the computer was play the 1990s classic bomberman. That was amazing...
"Covering" classic songs... Sometimes it's alright. But sometimes it turns into a disaster. I don't listen to covers that much anyway, so I don't have much of an opinion there :P

que_sara said...

I cannot stand the new "You Spin Me Around", it is just not the same...plus, the Dead or Alive music video for it cannot be beaten, its too amazingly hilarious.

Some re-workings of old songs are interesting and original, but they shouldn't be claimed by the covering artist. I guess its to each his own of which they like better...

Syvenseks said...

It's a shame the kiddies don't know the songs are built samples.

mapletononmain said...

Definitely rip-offs! I don't know how they get away with it.

As for the internet, I remember the days of non-graphic browsers, and writing your own dial-up scripts. So primitive, but on the bright side, no pop-up ads, either.

Drea said...

I hate it!!
It makes me so made when people steal from other artists >:/
Im just like... come up with your own melodies...

Rune said...

Haha! All I had in the 90s, computer-wise, were CD-ROM games. XD Technology has come SO far, in everything. Though my computer's still just as slow as it was...I need a new computer. -_-

Oho, I'll rant about crap rappers and bands any day, especially if they botch songs I love.
Some of the worst that I've heard are on the Instant Karma cd. Some were good, but most were horrible. I won't get into it.

It seems to me that over time, music is just going downhill. Don't get me wrong, I love most rock/metal/industrial/techno, but all the rap/hip hop/pop/"disney rock"...eugh. I just think that the world's expectations for good music and entertainment are declining to nothingness. People are becoming desensitized, and you can really hear it in the music...It makes me sad.

Araceli said...

Pretty sure I just about killed myself when I heard what Duff did to Personal Jesus

darkness069 said...

Thanks, now I'll have those songs stuck in my head all night, and probably tomorrow too...

And internet from the 90's can only be topped by boybands from the 90's; those were more annoying, with the massive merch everywhere. Of course, how could any girl not be cool when having backstreetboys stickers? (I didn't have, by the way)

And I know some people still on dial-up, cursing it like mad, hehe.

xoxo

My-le and Jasmin. said...

Also how his new song "Sugar" sounds alot like "I'm Blue" by Eiffel 65?

eatourownyoung said...

It's called sampling, and while I haven't done much research on the matter an educated guess would be the original artists of the songs getting sampled get some kind or recognition, or at least they should.

Anonymous said...

I was under 10 in the 90's and I do remember that lovely dial-up business because I used to play those computer video games all the time. Its weird being born right on the edge of the widespread use of computers. I don't know life without them and don't remember life when they were still new and slow. I'm part of a guinea pig generation in a way.. let's see how it affects us. Remember VHS?

Those "cover" songs are not my thing but wouldn't bother me if fair royalties were given to the original artists. Alas, money makes the world go 'round, huh? I swear I didn't steal that. (:
- Sarah

P.S. Thank you for momentarily distracting me from my Lost-watching binge, it's getting unhealthy...

Emerald Muerte said...

It's pretty sad that these 'musicians' are desparate enough to steal other people's music. Where's the industry headed?


Jade, dial up still exists! I'd know, I HAVE IT!! It's terrible, 40kbs here in New Zealand. Sad, sad, sad.

Sarahface8 said...

I heard Flo Rida's song and I was disgusted. And by the way: we (DF and message board people) attempted to figure out the song you posted and our attempt has been uploaded to youtube. Hope that's cool with you. You did challenge us, remember?

UGLY KID// said...

FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES! In my past blogs I used to type on Myspace, I would rant on and on about how terrible a cover of a song would be, one of them being Hilary Duff's new rendition of DM. Be sure to check out the JoHos rendition of Take on Me, which happens to had been my favourite music video of the 80's.

Vanilla Lace said...

I love the Dead or Alive version. When I heard Marilyn Manson's cover {not sure if its an official one or not} I was "ok, passable." he did change some of the lines to suit his personality i guess. then i heard this. Imagine me walking through school minding my own business, when all of a sudden...*Wahbam* This comes on and I recognize the lyric and beat. I run up to my friend and say a rap/hiphop artist did a cover of this?[don't really no who Flo Rida is] and she ways no this is a Flo Rida song. She doesn't think its a cover. shame.

Kayleigh Control said...

But Jadey, it's just mixing. You do it too *big wink* OH WAIT. You mix your OWN things. That's right! Sorry, I got muddled up there.

I laughed so hard at the AOL dial-up thing. That's a nightmare blast from the past if ever there was one. I wasn't on AOL, but my friend was and we'd sit there, inane grins turning into grimaces of horror as one picture would take about five million years to load.

Dark times, Jade. Dark times.

I think when artists use other peoples' tracks etc in their songs, they should at least acknowledge it somewhere. They never do.

And Pete Burns scares me. Have you seen the state of 'him' lately?

Big love xxxx

Jay said...

I believe this technique (known as 'sampling') grants the original songwiter a songwriting credit on the sampled song. I'm pretty sure they need to pay for it too (or at least ask?)

That's the extent of knowledge I have on the matter.

quartney said...

I just miss the days where internet sounded like remote controlled toy cars.

Anonymous said...

Napster was awesome! Untill Metallica whined about it haha. Im sick of all the damn "covers" and remixes too. I heard on the radio you guys said crash love was coming in august right? Offical release date any time soon?? were gettin ancy over here! Ohh and what do you think of new green day? I like it, but it sounds like a second act of american idiot...so a lil on the dissapointed side.

liebling said...

Well, the Soft Cell dude was on TV here in Germany this Friday and said he was okay with Rihanna's cover. ;)

Also, you forgot horrible private homepages with lots of GIFs and a space background and all written in Comic Sans MS in crazy colours.

lezah said...

Well said, Mr Puget. Flo Rida's songs annoy me so much. Have you heard the new one with the "dam dabba dee dabba da"? I believe the original song was something about this boy living in a blue world. It's annoying that artists rip off music and don't acknowledge the originals. That is stealing and I can't listen to dishonest music.

As for slow internet, well, my family had dial-up until 2005, and let's just say that I was a hell lot more patient then than I am now. I first started using the internet in 2000 or 2001 as far as I can remember (I was 6 or 7) and the change is obvious. The page would take 10 minutes to load and I'd be happily sitting there, singing some random song. Now, give it more than 1 second and I'm complaining my head off. How sad.

Cherol said...

I really hate that.

Vincent said...

by the way, let's not forget the song by lady sovereign called so human which is a total rip-off of close to me by the cure.
even though it's an obvious case of plagiarism, since this pseudo-lady rapper sings exactly the first verse of the cure's song, robert smith had nothing to complain about it.
funny thing, because we've been told for about 30 years about robert's bad temper or even about his thirst of money.

leongyiting said...

A lot of current mainstream artists are ripping off melody lines off good tracks because they can't write their own!

chaoskitten said...

i thought i was the only one who noticed that with the Rhianna song! everyone thought i was imagining it! thank you Jade! :D

that song Flo Rida did has been done SO many times! have you heard the Dope version? a lot of people think its Marilyn Manson, but its not, it just sounds like him. that version is WAY cooler than Flo Rida's by miles...

i don't remember 90's interweb coz i was only 8 in the year 2000!
My "Broadband" is incredibly slow sometimes, it seems to take issue with Youtube a lot. so much for "modern Irish technology". :( and we're aparantly one of the world leading tech countries? pfft!

one more thing, don't artists get in trouble if their song sounds too much like someone elses? they get in trouble in the Eurovision.... or it different in the States? hmm....

Anonymous said...

The songs considered 'their' covers are horrible, butchered, severed avery last limb left in them.

I hate to admit it, I STILL have old timey internet. Can you believe it, I mean c'mon we're almost at 2010 -_-
I have to wait along time for your bloggy goodness to show up.

kombucha said...

i think the depeche mode one irritates me the most. she just ruined a timeless classic. thanks hilary.

Larissa said...

omg I was just thinking about how I hate all these songs of today copying the classics with out even giving any credit. It makes me wanna scream! I hate it!

Larissa said...

Also that song Goodbye by Kristinia DeBarge

that pisses me offffff.........

Payaso said...

no no no. sacrilege to the classics! girls aloud covering walk this way - EPIC FAIL! run dmc with aerosmith pulled it off but i should have been left at that.

manufactured popstars are so rap they cant even write anything unique to create thei own style. Even beyonce 'stole' a song! ok it might not have been an old classic but come on...write something new or consider yourself redundant.

Anonymous said...

lol i had dialup until less than a year ago.

Emme said...

I am so glad someone said somethiN bout these musical direction ppl are doiN today. whatever happen to originality.
Would someone please give em a Beat.

Matt said...

Apparently, Flo-Rida tried to remix it, but Pete burns (or whoever) wouldn't grant copyright. So they changed the lyrics for a quick release.

Funny, I was discussing this today.

Backlash23 said...

That reminds me of trying to play Fifa soccer for PS2, on a dial-up connection. I'd be about to shoot, BAM! I get hit with lag and somehow the other guy has scored three goals. And also, poppy artists such as Hilary Duff and obnoxious "rappers" such as Flo Rida need to learn how to write their own melodies and lyrics.

Jackie said...

Buuuuuuuuuuuullshit without question

{Jønn¿} said...

Ugg, Artists do this ALL. THE. TIME.
Especially like, hip/hop-R&B-Rap stuff. I saw "You Spin Me right Round" as the #1 song in iTunes, and i was like, "Oh good! the classics make a comeback!" but then found out it was not the original, and i thought it was totally unfair that FloRida got credit for reaching the top, and not the originals.
Also, another song was "The Way I Are" by Timberland, which was reaaally "Push It" by Salt-N-Pepa.

Fatal Kiss said...

I fucking love Peter Burns.

esperanzagomez said...

i think it would be cool if these artist's would actually say "yeah this song is a cover by ....."
"orr yeah i really loved the orginal, so i wanted to sample from it and make it my own" or something like that crediting the original artist. but no everyone thinks it's their original. and flo'rida does that alot, he just released a newer song where he uses parts from Blue by Effiel 65.

Susan said...

oh lord, thankfully the days of 14.4 modems are done and over. i was in college in late 90s, played my share of MUD and lingered around different chats and icq, etc. and to think one once had to have an imagination online when everything was text only and command driven. anybody actually remember playing Oregon Trail and or Gorillas (that old DOS game where the gorillas throw bananas).

Marilyn Manson does some mad covers. and not to brown nose, but AFI's covers of Jack the Ripper and Just Like Heaven are pretty sweet. i'm also partial to dynamite hack's cover of boyz in da hood. i'll leave it at that for now...

//..Flip..\\ said...

Not only did flo rida steal their song but the guy from tokio hotel stole his hairdo...
on the note of similar songs...that one that kid rock did "all summer long" did he credit sweet home alabama by lynyrd skynyrd and werewolves of london by Warren Zevon??

//..Flip..\\ said...

Not only did flo rida steal their song but the guy from tokio hotel stole his hairdo...
on the note of similar songs...that one that kid rock did "all summer long" did he credit sweet home alabama by lynyrd skynyrd and werewolves of london by Warren Zevon??

Anonymous said...

Oh God, 90's net >.<
I've been noticing a lot of "artists" ripping off other real Artists music, without giving credit. It pisses me the f**k off.

Kati said...

I must say the only thing worse than these copycat artists is when I rant about it and people say, "Depeche Mode? Dead or Alive? Who's that?"

Detestable.

Adreli said...

I agree, I just hope that the artist got paid for the rights of using the music, I'm not a fan of Flo, Hillary and Rhianna, and the first time I heard the songs I was like what a rip off.

Any ways, talking about internet of the 90's, I so remember that, my high school years, waiting for ever to load pages and pictures for sure.

GermaricanMix said...

I really hate when artists borrow from other songs without giving credit. I also really hate when artists cover songs and put it on the radio. It's a personal pet peeve of mine cause sometimes I think it's an awesome new song just to have my mom go 'you know that's a cover, right?' and then I feel cheated. It's not to say that covers are bad. I love covers. Sometimes I love the covers more than the originals (Mad World - Gary Jules), but I wanna know right away that it's a cover. Ugh, it's late, does that even make sense?

kristy said...

didn't it all start with Vanilla Ice and Under Pressure? and then there was Verve Pipe and Bittersweet Symphony. i can't remember the whole *thing* about that, but somehow they ended up having to pay royalties because the melody was ripped off someone else.

Jane said...

Haha, the internet of the 1990s! I remember being so excited at school as they were putting in a computer suite with internet access. And having loads of CD-ROMs with encyclopedias and stuff on before that. Now I get impatient if it takes more than 60 seconds to load a page. Oh dear!

Thanks for fixing your page, it's stopped doing weird things now, though it was only a problem when viewing on Google Chrome...

SeanLinnae said...

I've always hated it when bad covers of songs surface or when artists 'borrow' from the oldies.

My main example is that Kid Rock song that basically steals both 'Werewolves in London' by Warren Zevon AND 'Sweet Home Alabama' by Skynyrd. It really angers me when people believe his song is an original and I hate that his only #1 song is one he didn't come up with on his own and had to steal from not one by TWO artists.

Okay, I'm done now.

chaoskitten said...

someone tried to figure out the guitar riff from that video you put up here of you playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv4s22mPXws

did they get it right?
people seem to like it. :)

Rezrath said...

Thank you Jade, this has been getting on nerves for ages. I believe there's a song ripping Close To Me too which makes me sadder still. Is it really that hard to acknowledge the original? :( *grumble grumble grumble*

Jas said...

Lame...
This makes their music suck even more haha. Not like anyone should need an extra excuse not to listen to their "songs". It all sounds the same to be honest, remixed.

Erin said...

hilary duff...no...just...no.
im thoroughly outraged. she's ruined music enough already..

dezzo ♥ said...

gosh! i hate when new pop artists make a "cover" of a song and dont give a damn credit! now every stupid teenager thinks that hilary duff´s song was own by her! and they dont have any f*cking idea of who is depeche mode! grrr... what a bunch of ignorants! and btw... dont you think that jonas brothers are an insult to music? :B

Jacks said...

There are so many people who think that what is happening NOW is all that had ever happened...
It's where the dreaded question of "What is The Cure or the Clash?" comes from...
and "that Bird is the Worm was original Family Guy comedy, right there."

Because of this I think even covers don't get enough credit, honestly. I use cover's to get into bands that my favorite bands love enough to cover. If bands love an artist enough to cover them they should be giving the artist the obvious credit... and not letting the younger generation figure out for themselves.
...Besides all of that I just Can't. STAND. the Flo Rida remake. And anyone who says it's original, (or even THE original)...

Crimson Butterfly said...

deppending on how some songs sound sometimes the remixes sound good like the song heaven by Bryan Adams(i dont know if thats right)but it was remixed by Dj Sammy and put it in DDR(Dance Dance Revolution)but sometimes the songs dont even sound right deppending on who the artist is and if they let them and if not then they do song-stealing.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe people actually voted for Hillary Duff...

k17 said...

Oh, the days of AOL dial-up... I could eat breakfast waiting for the homepage to load. It was a beast, to be sure. Although, I do miss the way my old Internet Explorer would let me choose a color theme from it's hefty repertoire. I think the all-time best web browser name has got to be Netscape Navigator.

Recently on iTunes I was browsing Soft Cell only to find a stream of angry comments about Rihanna. I moseyed over to her song in question and was majorly bummed to hear that it had the same double punch that made Soft Cell's cover so famous.

Maybe it's the music world's way of keeping up with all the movie remakes coming out now.

dollfayce dropdead <3 said...

I don't like covers unless they're REALLY good.
+ I hated dial-up with a burning passion. I still had that back in like, 2004.

CaughtBetween said...

Urg. I hate copied music they could at least give credits to the originals. Or admit its a cover before it hits the top 20 lists.

MJ said...

Don't even get me started on how much this annoys me. They shouldn't be getting paid for taking a good old song and changing a few lines. Where is the originality?

But I suppose there are two sides to this argument. It's a good way to bring back the classics to a new generation of teenagers and sort of make them "new" again.

Still pisses me off, though.

Syvenseks said...

Don't mess with a girl with a name like Ida Ho

kristy said...

i wouldn't have a problem with artists doing legitimate *covers* of old songs. Marilyn Manson and HIM have done some of my favorite covers, along with Placebo doing my all-time favorite cover. but it's not a cover when you change the words, add an extra beat to the music here and there and call it your own. that's just plain stealing.

Oskar said...

i think cities of night and sister of night sounds at many parts the almost the same.

Anonymous said...

wait a sec what is so wrong with the act of covering? i thought the problem was that the people covering the song didn't give credit to the original artist?

Larissa said...

Ida Ho. Sounds nice.

XpoisonedXheartsXwillXneverXchangeX said...

Flo-Rida's Vover of Right Round is AWFUL, I couldn't agree more with you dude, it's appalling. Dead Or Alive's original version is amazing, and it always will be. Just wanted to say. And Hilary Duff's version of Tainted Love is just as bad, they're both just shocking.
Hope you're well ^.^
xx <3

JoeMama said...

Yeah song sampling is just sickening. I blame Vanilla Ice.

Isn't "Tainted Love" a remake though? Just sayin. I'm 36 yo and I kinda remember it being that way from back in the day of 1983.

Anyhow even more sickening then song sampling is the lack of creativity in Hollywood these days. Why is no one else but me getting irritated by all of these remakes of movies? I heard today that they're going to be remaking "Heathers" and "Ghostbusters" now. In addition to "Footloose", "The Karate Kid" and other movies I remember from the 80s.

For the love of god, make it stooooop!!!!

Shadow147 said...

Hahaha I'm absolutely with you all the way on this.
The issue's actually been driving me insane for the past few months, and I think you're spot on here.
Fuck that shit, ryyy'?
xx

Escondite Inglès said...

Wait, you so you don't like mash-ups?

And the Flo Rida song is clearly just cashing in on internet memez (a certain meat spin -y site that will not be mentioned). Just like Rihanna and T.I. with Live Your Life and the numa numa song. And like the new song (I forget by who) using the chorus of Blue by Eiffel 65.

Whatever bro. As he said "If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."

Boo_Baby_Doll said...

I have no problem if an artist re-makes a song or something...but they should totally give credit where credit is due!!

ChinchillaDust said...

I didn't really mind performers sampling songs until I heard that Melonie Fiona chick's use of The Zombie's "Time Of The Season". It got personal then, because that just ain't right.

Lousy douche bags! Lay off the classics!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info Jade. I was going to ask you to please enlighten us on how it works.

Cera said...

Hate all you want, kids, Flo Rida's catchy as fuck. Not a lot of people can put aside the whole OMG DEY STEALED TEH SONGS! aside to just chill and listen to music.

I feel like I have nineties internet tonight, it's slower than hell.

Anonymous said...

The rappers aren't doing anything wrong or illegal tho, although it is certainly not as creative as making your own music. In any rap ablum booklet credit is given to the writers of the original song, and it always says used with persmission, so its not as if they are stealing the music, and im sure the original artists do get a reasonable amount of money for use of the sample.

Jamie C. said...

Hate that... they should definitely give A LOT of credit to these artists instead of plagiarizing... 'cause that's really what it is...

BellaDawna said...

I just saw a VHI show on one hit wonders and they profiled the singer from "Dead or Alive." That was an awesome song, still is, in fact I have it on my Ipod. But the poor guy has turned into a plastic surgery addict and you can no longer recognize him. Plus he has all sorts of health issues from it. He looks like a cross between the "New York Socialite Cat Lady" and Alexis Arquette. It makes me so sad to see such talent fall so hard. This world is a scary place. Oh, and just to note, I don't mean it is sad that he finds a certain aesthetic beautiful and wants to attain it, but that he can't go out any longer because of the "pus" dripping from his mouth and cheeks. I wanted to get on a plane and go take care of him :(

Anonymous said...

Hillary Duff's version = epic fail

MamaDebs said...

My first computer was a web-tv circa 1997, I still have it packed away somewhere. Have to agree with most everyone here, the 'borrowed' riffs from songs irks me to death.

theresa benedict said...

Rappers should cover rap song and Rockers should cover rock songs and Pop singers....need to make their own music. Jade, for example, Aiden covered White Wedding by Billy Idol and Die Die My Darling by the MisFits. They kept the original style of the song. You guys covered Just Like Heaven by The Cure. you kept the orginal context but you changed the guitar part because Davey cant play guitar worth the life of him(LOL). so Flo Rida and Hilary Duff and Rihanna should just stick within their own genre.


*Ida Ho would be the perfect rapper name for you!*

Paige said...

Actually, I have to confess, the first time I heard a kid in my third block class singing the Flo Rida version of the song, I said, "No, it goes like this!" and started singing the Dead or Alive version.
I guess this is what I get for (basically) only listening to 80's stuff.

NoiseElectric said...

LMAO Ida Ho. You kill me, Jadey.
:P

Anonymous said...

aghh, i think if i were an artist and someone came to me asking to 'sample' my music, i'd have to smack them and ask them if they're stupid. NO. I think that if you're surviving on a hit single by reusing an already perfect hit, then you have officially failed as an artist. So wrong. I mean, don't get me wrong, covering is fine. The difference: A cover is your own interpretation of the song, and you're not exactly ripping off the band who made the original. Sampling is basically stealing in my eyes. It's getting very sad what people will do for a little recognition these days...

d said...

On the topic of rip-offs, I recently discovered on Spotify that the early Cure song Heroin Face stole the music from the Damned's "I Fall". You should shun Bobert for this.

Cassandra said...

Covering songs is perfectly fine with me, as long as the cover is good. It makes me die a little inside when an artist covers a song and it's an abhorrent rendition.

Sometimes covers can be even better than the original song- it just depends not only on the talent of the artist, but also the listener's personal taste.

I think Flo Rida is awful, regardless of whether or not he's trying to pass off his version of the song as his own. "Right Round" is so far from my taste in music that I can't even get halfway through without being tempted to stab my eardrums with chopsticks. Repeatedly.

Nephilista said...

Um... I'd say Flo Rida SAMPLED Dead or Alive, and there's a long tradition of sampling that's become an integral part of the music world over the last 30+ years. As long as the writers of the original song get paid too, there shouldn't be a problem, and it just comes down to individual listener preference. (For the record: Dead or Alive FTW.)

So... you're gonna name yourself after our... potato-iest state...? [Insert bad joke about mash-ups here]

Later, Ida.
;>

megs:)™ said...

I totally agree with you, my personal opinion is that these new "artists" think they're the shit, and that they can do whatever they want. Which is how we get so many ripped off songs, and I seriously doubt that they're paying the original artists their well-deserved royalties. Any news on the new Blaqk Audio CD yet?

Pixie said...

Haha... I live in Florida(born and being rasied XD) and I'm not too fond of Flo Rida using our name...big rip off jerk...XD it was sad today my younger sister was singing the whole right round thing that he did and i started singing the original and she just kind of looked at me with this blank expression. I was shocked.

And I STILL have dail up. AOL too. I kind of laughed. I talk to all of my gamer friends that have the whole highspeed deal and they're shocked. It's so funny!

But the whole song stealin thing ain't cool yo. Covers are fine...but you know what kind of bugs me...all these screamo artists covering rap and hip hop songs...i mean at first it was cool but now it's too much.

xoxo,
Pixie

NepNep said...

....aaaaaand I don't care. At least, not anymore. After I finished watching Hilary Duff's video, my left eye stopped twitching and visions of her dying a slow, painful, Lizzie Maguire themed death faded away. Then I had a zen moment reading this blog. I was introduced to the original Depeche Mode song after a radio DJ played it immediately following Marilyn Manson's cover a while back. It's always important to remember your musical roots. Whether it's the hypocrisy of racist rock groups saying they hate black people or Flo Rida, everything is everything. We need to understand, and appreciate the entire history of music, where it was, AND where it's going. Whether you like it or not.

Theodora Tang said...

Originality is dead. =/

As in, unfortunately, copyright infringement issues in places other than Youtube. =_=

Hannah said...

i couldn't agree more. what makes them think they can butcher classic after classic?! ugh. i'm sure you've heard 311's version of "Love Song". i like them, but they totally ruined it. bleh. i will make an exception though...PM Dawn sampled Spandau Ballet's "True" in one of their songs and i actually really like it :)

Sarah said...

It's sad that people can't write their own music. Especialy rappers that use old music and put their own words over it.

Pinkii said...

The songs are fun [except Hilary Duff. wtf was that?] but they have to use other peoples music because the idea of writting their own music is just silly.
Too much work for these celebrites!

ps: Watch the Hilary Duff video if you want a good laugh! Ha! : ]

Glass Spider Webs said...

This same thing happened to me. Except I was not in my car, I was dragged to prom. And... I assumed that You spin me right round playing and I got really excited... You see, they had not been playing wonderful music.... anyways.. turns out it is not that song, it is the flo rida song.. Needless to say I was not a very pleased.

I agree with everyone who said that the music industry should care more about artists stealing songs pieces than people downloading a few songs.

It is one thing to be influenced by an artist, but to blatantly steal their work and say it is your own is pathetic.


Side note: Remember when you said there were no 90s teen movies : 10 things I hate about you, the wedding singer, clueless & never been kissed. Our equivalent to sixteen candles.

Charlene said...

the singer of dead or alive is wicked HAWT!


<3 charlene

art biter said...

These people need to sit in a corner, pray hard, and try to grow a brain. Stealing other artist's work is no longer how things are done. Post modernism is long over and we have been living in a new century for quite some time now. Guess they missed the text.

For genuine covers I admit being a Placebo addict. They go from captivatingly nasty to heart rending. Try 'Jackie' if you don't believe me.

Burlington said...

I would think that those songs actually have sampling in them, kinda like in "ice ice baby", though I'm not quite sure about what the copyright laws are for this. :/

justin said...

jade, about Duff, she also has done songs that sound like cory heart's "sunglasses" and also b-52's "rocklobster" it angers me

justin said...

shit i was wrong about the b-52's thing and the cory heart, its miley cirus who did those two covers.

shows how shitty disney pop stars are

Anonymous said...

I don't see them as covers since they use different song titles and acknowledge them as being originals. I would say that they are sampling the song rather than covering it. I don't feel there is anything wrong with sampling a song as long as it is done legally.

ET Scene said...

Cover songs are ok. Thats prolly the only thing I can do when it comes to bands and songs (my randomly-written lyrics are suckish XO) so yeah. I hate rap/pop(give or take a few songs) music so Flo Rida wasn't ever a concern to me. However the song-stealing thing is assinine.

Gilded said...

http://stereogum.com/archives/hillary-duff-appropriates-depeche-mode-on-new-sing_006467.html

Haha the second comment!!! :P

Excuse me while I go throw up after watching that :(

Anonymous said...

i actually asked about this on the despair faction :)

stephanie said...

man i totally agree with you 100% i like the original version of you spin me right round flo ridas version is not very good

CAIT said...

Gosh, dial up sucked ass!
I used to wait so long for myspace to load & whatnot. I only got broadband in like '04 or '05 because I barely used the internet before that. Thinking back now I don't know why we didn't get it sooner! And how did I not throw the computer out the window? I'm a very impatient person haha.

As for these "covers" or crappy "samples". I think they're bloody awful! I love all 3 originals & I think all the bands should get royalties. If they don't, it's stealing. They should sue.
They're even more blatant in these than Tom DeLonge stealing The Cure's basslines. (What a dissapointment AVA were!)
Another thing that annoys me is these little teeny boppers that love these songs yet claim to hate the originals. How is that possible when they have the same tune!?
x

Deepa said...

Eminem in "Sing For A Moment" that chorus is totally Aerosmith.
Oh hey, and so is the title.

Deepa said...

Oh yeah, and Run DMC.
Their version of "Walk This Way" pisses me the hell off.

Anonymous said...

i know this is a while after this was posted and i dont know why i waited this long to comment- but this is something i talk about with my friends all the time! im only 13 but i love all the "old timey" artists especially Queen and i think its horrible how artists just take credit for something that originaly wasnt theirs!

i try to explain this to my friends but they dont listen to the original music so they think i just need something to complain about and that i decide to pick on the newer artists.

im glad that a bunch of people agree with me though cause i thought i was alone!

Caitlin Collins said...

I'm not entirerly sure but i don't think the dead Or alive version was about sex and pole-danceing. I don;t know though because i don't think i was alive when it came out. unless it was '96 but i think it was in the 80's. the radio kinda sucks these days. and you wanna know why? it's cuz we get these whiney little pop stars who's dads were once famouse county singers *cough* *cough* cyrus *cough* and then they get an acting gig and then there's nothing on tv or the radio. which is exactly why i just listen to my ipod which includes these bands...

The Cure, Dead Kennedys,Modern English, Soft Cell, 311, Nirvana, Weezer, INXS, Blondie, Radiohead, Talking Heads, Smashing Pumpkins,Talk Talk, Billy Idol, Oasis, depeche Mode, AFI, Jet, Blaqk Audio, Coldplay, Queen, The The,The Police, The Sex Pistols, Duran Duran, Bon Jovi, a-ha, Goo Goo Dolls, Beck, U2, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews Band, Jeff Buckley, Kansas, Collective Soul, Offspring Pearl Jam, The Police, R.E.M., Sweet, Bookstore Robbery, Honorary Title and i am happy. i really like the one smashing pumpkins song that goes "despite all my rage im still just a rat in a rage" and i cant think of the name of it!! u need to tell me. o yeah back to the subject, my friends get on my nerves sometimes becaue they only like the next big thin. I'm not against it or anything but they wont even give it a chance. i'l listen to anything at east once and the only genre i dont really like all that much is country. while im typing i have my ipod on shuffle and Avenue Q's "you can be as loud as the hell you want when you're makin' love" came on. I watched Superbad the othernight. Talk about awkward. there were so many pictures of penises! it was scary and over whelming for my 13 year old mind. i also suck at spelling if you can't tell. what does 'decedence' mean? i jus frinished writing my story about gay people. but the twist is, u dont know the dude is gay till the end. if you'd like i can tell you more, but seeing that it's 12:30a.m here i think i will go to bed. O yeah and if you could explaine to me how to use twitter from my phone that would be lovely.
-Caitlin

kamuix212 said...

"Covering" the classics....there's still something so wrong with me I can't listen to Kashmir (Led Zep for those that don't know) anymore after the abomination that was done to it for the Godzilla 2000 movie. And I understand the craptastic thing that is Flo Rida...I wanna be Ill Nois if I ever do anything like that...but anyhow..I heard the song on the radio and 1) wondered what the hell Dead or Alive was doing on the rap station...and then it started and after that I just about screamed every obscentity known to man at my car radio. I HATE it when this happens, if you're going to cover the song, damn well cover it! Not brutalize it and call it art. But what do I know?

As far as I'm concerned, the music world has sucked since 2000 or so...(when did Miss Murder come out, I don't remember off the top of my head) the "rap" and crap just needs to go away.

I can definitely say I don't miss the old 90s computers/internet abilities, considering at that time I was online at night only because it was the one time I could count on my mother NOT getting on the phone while I was trying to download something or just trying to surf around...and besides, I didn't know how to really go around to much, I was still a kid in the 90s...then again all the stuff I'm having to do now, I'd rather be a kid. ....wait....no...kids now have to deal with Jonas Brothers (gag me) and Hannah Montana (a slut by any other name...)

Where is all the good music!

Oh...and just a sideways comment, I'm guessing album coming out = touring? COME TO ST. LOUIS MO! No one ever does anymore, only the old hair bands of the 80s and god help me if I have to see the guy from Styx sing the Beatles (I am the Walrus, still frickin hilarious no matter who says it) I think I might scream

Anonymous said...

I like when an artist comes up with music that is fresh and original.

Anonymous said...

I personally like some covers by rap artists including p. diddys cover of sting and "sing for the moment" by eminem. it didnt seem like they were trying to pass them off as originals at all. as far as run dmc's "cover" of "walk this way", ya it wasnt. in fact, aerosmith performed it with them. besides run dmc said in an interview that aerosmith was one of their favorite bands and that both bands thought it would be a good idea to do a rap/rock crossover.

but my all time favorite cover is method man and mary j. bliges cover of marvin and tammi's "youre all i need".

Anonymous said...

I think it's called sampling...so yeah, the original artists do get money for the new artist using their melody/beat. Ever seen that episode of the Steve Harvey show? By the way, your music is AWESOME.

Anna said...

Just to say, with the slow internet shit, I still have internet like that ):